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Post by Reds GM on Oct 21, 2011 13:02:15 GMT -5
Not understanding how anyone would get to free agency..Now there are 2 tags each(franchise and restricted)..I guess bidding on restricted guys but that wouldn't be anyone of substance..
Then having a 200m salary cap and extensions..it would take 6 years before any players hit free agency under this current set up.. I think we need to re think the concept a little(brainstorming), not one guy can cover all the bases!
The National League teams will have to trade a good to great player to get a guy to fill there utility slot since our teams obviously don't play one..
Without free agency route and lack of available players who actually play a fair amount of games the American League would be at a great advantage..
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Post by cardinalsgm on Oct 21, 2011 13:18:16 GMT -5
my thoughts would be this....Each teams gets ONE RFA tag to use each year. That will make the FA pool deeper each year. If a player is arbi eligible, you can only sign him until his arbi years are up...(say Molina has one more year of arbitration, I can only extend him for one more year max)....Also, drop the salary cap to 150-175M.
Eliminate the 40 man roster. Each team has 25 guys on their roster, that is plenty. This will also add to the FA pool. With the amount of minor league players we have in this league it will be no problem to replace a player that goes on the DL with either a FA or one of your own farm hands that gets called up to replace him.
This league has a great concept, I run two of my own, if you need some help I would gladly help out.
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Post by Royals GM on Oct 21, 2011 13:54:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure there is a significant issue with the rules (except possibly the 'extensions'). As time goes on supply & demand will balance out the league. As for players making it to free agency, plenty of players will get there. Teams will likely franchise their best player and then those that are trying to be kept using the restricted tag will move teams, eventually. The teams with cap space will out price the teams trying to keep their players. As players move through their arbitration years their rosters will get more expensive and GMs will have difficult decisions to make.
For me what is difficult to judge at this time is how the extensions and raises will impact player movement. Ultimately, it shouldn't be too different but it make take longer to get to based on the current cap.
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Post by Reds GM on Oct 21, 2011 15:02:30 GMT -5
With 2 franchise tags and 2 restricted tags not much will make it to free agency..I can sign all my players to large extensions and never sniff the salary cap.. Then slap franchise tags on any who get close..So please explain how players will make it to free agency? I don't see it! Maybe a player who is 40 and washed up might make it..
Slapping a franchise tag on a player should be a penalty and cost you a bunch of money.. I think we need to get together and find a way for players to make free agency.. Franchise tags should cost you the average of the 10 highest paid players at that position(position played the most the prior year)..
And only 1 tag per team, and you can use the tag on the same player once..I.E..Pujols can be tagged this year then he is a free agent.. I am sure the commisioners can think of something that will help turnover in the league..
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Post by bluejaysgm on Oct 21, 2011 15:12:31 GMT -5
Here is how I would do it. 1 Franchise, One Restricted. You can trade them. Salary Cap at 175M please, otherwise the cap wont matter. As For Extensions, it cannot be any player, just those that have under 6 years of MLB service.
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Post by jhopp2010 on Oct 23, 2011 17:50:04 GMT -5
i think only being able to resign guys with under 6 years of MLB service is crazy...i think you should be able to sign them as long as possible BUT there needs to be a certain amount to which you must give them (set raise). and i do agree that a player can only be slapped with a tag once. i think for this whole season it needs to stay at 200 because if we dont get enough managers to fill every spot until the beginning of the year it will be hard to drop my salary a total of 80M from the yankees original. i think there might be a need for some clarification for the rules but i do believe they are all present, just some need either some rewording or something added to them. i do not think there is much to change. i think the hardest part in this league is going to be dealing with the signing and arbitration players so i think that is where we are needing some clarification.
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Post by bluejaysgm on Oct 23, 2011 18:38:14 GMT -5
I will quit right away if we keep it. You loose FA if you do this.
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Post by cardinalsgm on Oct 23, 2011 19:12:24 GMT -5
Something that works in another dynasty league Im in is that you assign contract years to your players instead of going with they players actual contract. So for instance, you go by the players actual salary for 2011, then you have a total of 75 contract years to hand out to your 25 man roster. Each year you are allowed to re-sign 2 players max. It works really well for FA, and keeps the confusion from arbitration and extensions to a minimum.
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Post by bluejaysgm on Oct 24, 2011 15:33:33 GMT -5
Where is the commish?? He should be mediating this.
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Post by Royals GM on Oct 24, 2011 15:37:25 GMT -5
Where is the commish?? He should be mediating this. . I'm pretty sure he was travelling the past few days to go to the Vikings game yesterday. he posted it on another thread.
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Post by Reds GM on Oct 25, 2011 9:44:36 GMT -5
Give the man a chance to see the info and clear up any questions we might have..I could be missing something..
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Post by Twins GM (Commish) on Oct 25, 2011 10:03:11 GMT -5
I have decided that we will be dropping the number of tags, each team will get one restricted tag and one Franchise Tag, extensions will stay the same. the player must have a minimum of three years and less than 6 years to be extended otherwise he will need to be hit with a tag or become a FA
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Post by jhopp2010 on Oct 25, 2011 10:05:42 GMT -5
i can definitely see where the Reds manager is coming from on some things. i can see how using a UTIL guy will definitely hurt the NL guys considering that they do not use one and if all of them are owned by guys in the AL then they will not have one. Basically they will have to use a guy for a UTIL that is NOT a starter. So I can see how something might need to be changed with the UTIL position
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Post by Twins GM (Commish) on Oct 25, 2011 10:07:45 GMT -5
they can use anyone for the UT spot they want, it DOES NOT have to be a guy who is a DH normally
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Post by Twins GM (Commish) on Oct 25, 2011 10:12:31 GMT -5
1-5- 35 M 6-15- 30 M 16-25 - 25 M 26-50- 20 M 51-75 - 15 M 76 - 100 - 10 M 101- 200 - 5 M 201- 300 - 2 M 300 and on- 1 M
So I hit Cuddyer with a Franchise Tag, he is currently making $10.5M and falls into the 76-100 range in the rankings that means I need to add $10M to his current contract which makes his contract now $20.5M
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